tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38413397.post8491020427473960215..comments2023-12-19T15:10:02.866-08:00Comments on ex cathedra: And I'm not even drunkUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger3125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38413397.post-75806195670769892442015-06-19T05:23:52.743-07:002015-06-19T05:23:52.743-07:00Russel's book on The Germanization of Early Me...Russel's book on The Germanization of Early Medieval Christianity might be of interest to you. Christianity has a always taken on much of the local culture in its various incarnations: Roman and Mediterranean, vs Northern, Irish vs English, to say nothing of the Slavs and Byzantines, etc.<br /><br />It was once just as solidly aligned with monarchy and aristocracy as it now is with open borders and environmentalism. When adapting to fundamentally healthy cultures, it often proved beneficial. But now that Pajama Boy and Caitlyn Jenner and Lets Invites Mexico and the Whole Third World To Live here is the cultural norm, it has morphed into something, with rare exceptions now, that will only hasten our demise rather than restrain our worst impulses.<br /><br />Deeply disappointing.OreamnosAmericanushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15602268350813211243noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38413397.post-85549522490378700832015-06-18T09:11:09.973-07:002015-06-18T09:11:09.973-07:00That is very interesting Ex Cathedra. I wish it wo...That is very interesting Ex Cathedra. I wish it would be enough to get me into it but, for some reason, it just does not interest me. I have also been interested Mormonism but, that is probably for the same reasons that I am still attached to, and clearly misunderstand, Catholicism. <br /><br />Both you and Sean have brought aspects of Catholicism that I have not considered. I look at Catholicism from a Socio-Cultural perspective and from a Pagan perspective, in that I have always considered it to be the replacement for Paganism in the Cultures of Europe. Everyone in my family since my grandparents, at the very least, have attended Catholic school so I would say that most in my family are knowledgeable. However, there are many blowhards who do not see the beauty of it, only the means to be self righteous. That said, my family has always had Pagan views that they have not been able to identify as such and that has affected my opinions about an Odinist revision of Catholicism. I realize that I was ignorant about actual scripture. Ex Cathedra brought this to my attention by revealing my family's inherent Pantheistic views versus the strictly Deistic views of the Church and Sean has brought to my attention the reverential nature of Christ and how it is all ultimately a means of worshiping Him for being the Ultimate Mediator to God and the Bringer of Salvation. When I speak of the Theology of Catholicism, all of these things are inherently up for debate. Theology is more than Dogma and more than a guidebook to life. That, however, does not change what Catholicism is in itself. I forget that too quickly and would ultimately make something neurotic and inorganic were it left to me because of that. Live and learn. <br /><br />I have always viewed the Redeemer in itself to be there only for those who need it and that such is always the unspoken agreement, especially in a hierarchical society. The Redeemer is always there to bring Self Love through Divine Love but also, to represent the Ideal to which man must strive. In the Theology of Catholicism, there is a very real and timeless series of observations about Nature in and of itself. These things are very often, if not always, true. The rub is, there is much depth to the words chosen and the contexts provided. There is also the other unspoken agreement that understanding is there for those who are able to achieve it. That is one of the foundations of the Mandate of Heaven. That is why there is hierarchy. That is also why there is education and fraternity built around the words of the Bible. It is the timeless observations of Nature and the beauty of the Ritual in Catholicism that I wanted to be taken up by as pure a form of Odinism as possible. There would be a Redeemer, a bringer of Self Love and Brotherly Love in this religion but, it would be a symbol of the Ideal of the Blood of the Soil in this entity as well. I was unclear about what I wanted and it may simply be as shallow as North Western European Paganism with the look and feel of Catholicism. I envision it as if the Claudites were able to take lead of Rome without the concern of the First Crusade and they had the opportunity to reform Catholicism before Charlemagne did. Though, when I think about it, that might not be as refined of a religion as I would think that it would. <br /><br />On a final note, perhaps I conflate the Theology of Catholicism with Theology in and of itself a bit too much. Since it was indeed created by Catholics as a discipline, it is a forgivable sin. That is likely why I was off base in describing what I would view as an ideal religion of the future. I simply used the wrong words. Perhaps this would be a better way of putting it: Odinism with the discipline of Catholicism. Perhaps the inherent barbarism of Teutonic religion is incompatible but, it is an ideal for me. Like most ideals, however, it might simply be a fantasy. <br /><br />-A Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38413397.post-60363243711984395572015-06-18T04:45:28.037-07:002015-06-18T04:45:28.037-07:00Hm. That could actually work. Mormons, as a whole,...Hm. That could actually work. Mormons, as a whole, seem rather more willing to adapt cultural developments to meet their needs than Catholics do, who stubbornly- but necessarily- trod on as they always have.<br /><br />If the Mormons okayed homosexuality, even in the way that you described it... I would definitely have to think about converting. The idea of becoming "angel of the Lord" doesn't sound too removed from my own musings about the ideal role of homosexual men in society- I hit upon cultural custodians, with an emphasis on the preservation of masculinity in art and culture. Converting would naturally create some awkwardness with my family, especially since, as knowledgable Catholics, they cast aspersions on the assertion that Mormons are indeed Christians, since they are not Nicean in their theology. <br /><br />-SeanAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com